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Pride, Prejudice & Veronica

by Smarty Pants on December 20, 2011

Please give a hearty cheers to Elizabeth R. as she takes the Smarty Pants stage! Her favorite cocktail is a virgin mojito (she’s underage, y’all!), and she once spent an entire week pretending to be Kit Kittredge from the American Girl series. Elizabeth is about to blow our collective mind by proving that Veronica Mars is totally a reincarnation of Pride & Prejudice. WHAT WHAT!

Dean:  I saw you talking to that guy.  What did you talk about?
Veronica:  Jane Austen.  But he dissed Pride and Prejudice, so I had to throw a beer on him.

~Veronica Mars, “The Rapes of Graff”

At first glance, Veronica Mars and Pride and Prejudice have little in common.  I was immediately drawn to the former’s snarky, blonde heroine, a girl whose detective skills never failed to impress.  Veronica Mars, with its perfect blend of mystery and drama, quickly became a much-watched and much-quoted favorite.  The same cannot be said for Pride and Prejudice. Jane Austen’s most beloved classic far from entranced me the first time around, likely because the “me” in question was way too young to comprehend the social nuances—let alone the jokes about those social nuances—in the novel.  But eventually, by way of some intensive literary analysis in English 11, Pride and Prejudice too joined the ranks of my favorite books and TV series.


It was around that time that I had the Epiphany.  Sure, Pride and Prejudice is free of murder, Veronica Mars free of pesky entailments.  Sure, they take place on opposite sides of the pond, about two hundred years apart.  But Veronica Mars and Elizabeth Bennet are the sort of spunky and strong characters who invite comparisons—so compare I did.  And to my surprise, the mirror images didn’t stop with them.

So let’s just ignore the fact that Rob Thomas has never ever, to my knowledge, named Pride and Prejudice as an influence.  Just pretend, for my sake, that the multitude of mind-bendy connections makes sense outside of my head.  I mean, you’ll get a list out of it—and I don’t know about you, but I really like lists.

EVIDENCE THAT THE CHARACTERS OF VERONICA MARS ARE REINCARNATIONS OF THE CHARACTERS OF PRIDE AND PREJUDICE DESPITE THE FACT THAT NONE OF THEM ARE REAL

Let’s start from the top, shall we?

THE HEROINES

OMG, guys—where to begin?  Here we have two strong and independent young women who, while good-hearted, can be a liiiittle stubborn and argumentative at times.  They are fiercely loyal to their families.  Elizabeth is quick to call out Mr. Darcy when he insults her family’s abrasiveness, just as Veronica sides with her parents after her father has been ostracized.

But the similarities can be negative.  Elizabeth has every right to be upset with Mr. Darcy after he insults her at the Meryton Assembly.  But judging him at every turn and believing a version of his past as told by Mr. Wickham, a man she knows no better?  As V would say, “Be cool, Sodapop”.  But Veronica isn’t immune to the strong-mindedness bug either.  Remember when she saw the camera in the Echolls pool house and ran away, certain that Logan had hidden it?  Remember when she went after the Hearst rapist—all alone?

Nevertheless, these girls ultimately come out on top.  They are both intelligent and willing to take the hard road even if it means economic and social instability.

THE CATALYSTS

Yeah… so I’m not about to argue that Jane Bennet and Lilly Kane are two peas in a literary pod.  Lilly would likely scoff at Jane’s quiet, reserved nature—in fact, Lilly’s temperament most nearly resembles that of Lydia Bennet, the promiscuous younger sister of Elizabeth.  But Jane and Lilly actually serve the same purpose in their respective tales—they are the catalysts.

If not for Jane’s involvement with Mr. Bingley, Elizabeth’s interactions with Mr. Darcy, Caroline Bingley, Lady Catherine, and the like would have been limited to one-time meetings or vague awareness.  It is Jane’s romance that pulls Elizabeth into high society and forces her to interact with the 09ers of the 19th century.  The same can be said for Lilly’s purpose, although her role is far less pleasant—she dies.  Sure, Veronica had been rubbing shoulders with the upper crust before Lilly’s death, but her outsider status with the 09ers, bestowed only after the murder, sets up many of season 1’s conflicts.  It is Jane and Lilly, Jane as the righteous and angelic sister and Lilly as the idealized, literal angel, that set up the heroines’ storylines.

THE LOVE INTERESTS

(Take a minute to stare at the amazingness.  You good?  Ok, moving on.)

Oh, Fitzwilliam Darcy and Logan Echolls—the fabulously wealthy and tortured duo that set the heroines’ hearts a-flutter.  Or do they?  Well, not at first.  Elizabeth is quick to reject Darcy and takes every opportunity to wittily insult him later on.  Veronica’s relationship with Logan is more directly antagonistic—think smashing car headlights and planting bongs in lockers.  And then come the turning points.  We have Mr. Darcy slowly revealing that his highest act of douchebaggery—separating Jane from Bingley—stemmed from a misguided desire to protect his friend from heartbreak.  And Logan… well, Logan actually partakes in pure douchebaggery early on.  But then, he has a major change of heart when saving Veronica from a crazy “student” (ok, undercover cop).

As final markers of their awesome nature, Mr. Darcy makes sure Mr. Wickham marries Lydia, stifling a scandal that would have ruined the Bennet family name.  Logan, in his crowning moment, takes a baseball bat to a police car to get thrown in jail to beat up Veronica’s attempted rapist.  Neither is with their heroine at the time—that’s just how they roll.

THE OTHER LOVE INTERESTS

Hold up.  Slow down there, all you Veronica/Duncan shippers (all seven of you).  I am not suggesting that sweet Duncan is the conniving, smooth-talking Mr. Wickham—not exactly.  But our heroines are initially taken with them only to fall out of love due to their baggage.  When Mr. Wickham’s duplicitous nature is revealed, Elizabeth drops him like a hot potato.  Duncan does the running in Veronica Mars, fleeing the country with his dead ex-girlfriend’s baby, thereby terminating his relationship with Veronica.  These actions leave Elizabeth and Veronica free to pursue their main love interests.

There’s also the matter of how Duncan’s charismatic presidential campaign stands in sharp contrast to his psychotic episodes, much like Mr. Wickham’s “tragic past” ends up being a cover for his gambling problems.  Furthermore, neither of the girls these two do end up with—Lydia and Meg—find happiness.  Duncan may not be malicious, but unfortunately, the comparison is there.

THE FATHERS

No question about it—Elizabeth and Veronica are their fathers’ daughters.  In one instance, we have Mr. Bennet of the biting comebacks.  There’s no question where Elizabeth got that witty streak.  Mr. Bennet is quick to assert that her happiness is more important than a “good” marriage to pompous Mr. Collins and reaffirms this principle when she approaches him about marrying Mr. Darcy.  Keith Mars, however, holds his own by way of a unique sort of tutelage—Veronica knows all the tricks of the P.I. trade.  And when Aaron Echolls locks Veronica in a refrigerator in the season 1 finale—Mr. Mars to the rescue!  He’s equally protective of her when it comes to boyfriends (even Leo the cop).

But these fathers are not without a fault—yes, a fault, because they really share it.  I hate to insult such a fine pair… but both are at times, downright negligent.  Mr. Bennet’s distaste for society’s rules is not merely a quirk—it detrimentally affects the entire family’s standings.  He does very little to reign in the wayward members of the Bennet clan, and that nearly leads to their downfall.  Mr. Mars too suffers from this.  By allowing his daughter to work and sleuth without any real supervision, he exposes her to all sorts of unsavory characters.  It’s not like V would have thought the world was a unicornicopia of happiness it she didn’t have her job, but the excessive freedom can’t help.

So there you have it—the tip of the iceberg analyzed.  Yes, I said “tip”—My brain wouldn’t stop there.  The more minor characters have their counterparts as well.  Mrs. Bennet and Lianne Mars’ downfalls are their obsessions with status.  Think of poor Deputy Leo and Mr. Collins—both nice and utterly boring guys, doomed to loose Liz and V.  Think of Weevil Navarro and Mr. Gardiner’s surprising chivalrous natures, which exist in contrast to their lower social standings.  Weevil’s unexpected detention friendship with Logan even mirrors Mr. Gardiner’s little fishing outing with Mr. Darcy.

And Madison Sinclaire is so Caroline Bingley.

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Ellen December 20, 2011 at 8:16 am

Awesome ! DO more, do more! :) )

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Kelsey December 20, 2011 at 8:26 am

This is so amazing! Excellent and funny analysis.

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erin December 20, 2011 at 8:28 am

This is amazing, however: why are we pretending that the Kiera Knightly version of P&P exists? Guys, I thought we’d been over this before. NO VERSION BUT COLIN FIRTH’S VERSION. EVER.

I’d compare Duncan to Mr Collins, actually . . . they’re both so odiously awful and you feel bad for whatever woman gets saddled with their issues. And Duncan dates Meg to get back at Veronica (poor Meg), while Mr Collins marries Charlotte to get back at Lizzy.

And also I want to punch both characters in the throat, so.

I’d compare Wickham to Troy! A momentary diversion that ends up betraying the MC’s trust, thereby allowing said MC to look outside their prejudice to other, way more swoonworthy love interests who are in the position of being antagonistic friends.

ALSO now I want Weevil to wear a morning coat and ride a steed.

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Alix December 20, 2011 at 12:00 pm

I had the same thought, Erin. I was reading and nodding along,except, EXCEPT for the fact that kiera knightley’s stupid face was cluttering up my screen. I was wondering who made that call.

I had a similar revelation re: Logan and Mr. Darcy the other day, after I went to see a stage production of P&P and then dreamt Jason dohring climbed into my window that night. Except it was not because he was seeking sexy times or even trying to watch me sleep under the guise of “protecting” me, which I might even accept from Logan echolls.

No. He was just trying to burgal my house. My subconscious is a strange place.

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Dee December 20, 2011 at 5:17 pm

agreed! Where is THE Firth?!!? Great post though =D

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Meghan December 21, 2011 at 8:20 am

Erin, I’m just going to pretend yr entire comment is actually mine, since all I can add otherwise is DUBS TRUE! Firth, Duncan/Collins, weevil in a morning coat and tight breeches – all true!

I can’t believe I never thought about these comparisons before – brills.

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Kathleen Trail December 20, 2011 at 8:57 am

This is delightful in every conceivable way. :)

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Sally December 20, 2011 at 8:58 am

Love it!

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Chelsey December 20, 2011 at 9:10 am

These parallels are fascinating!
And to the Duncan hater above, he’s not odious! I know very few people ship him and Veronica, but come on, the guy’s pretty stand-up. He goes to extremes to do what’s right to him.

Even if it’s raising his baby halfway around the world….

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erin December 20, 2011 at 11:14 am

Sorry, I cannot agree. Duncan spends A YEAR thinking that he had sex with Veronica WHILE SHE WAS TOO DRUGGED TO CONSENT and doesn’t tell her because he’s a pansyass too concerned with saving his own skin to think about how that might affect his longtime girlfriend and oh, also, bee tee dubs, that he might be her brother. Plus he has rage issues. I loathe Duncan.

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j December 20, 2011 at 11:38 am

*slow clap* That right there is what bothered the hell out of me about him. You thought you raped her and that you were her brother. WTF dude. WTF.

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Heather December 20, 2011 at 9:43 am

You had me at unicornicopia

Thanks for inspiring me to re-watch VM during this holiday break :)

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Jocelyn December 20, 2011 at 10:17 am

I LOVED and ADORED this post!!! Le sigh to Mr. Darcy and Logan Echolls and I love both of the heroines and the actresses that portray them. Great job on this girl!! Can’t wait to see more. :-)

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Alyssa December 20, 2011 at 11:08 am

I enjoyed this very much but I cannot believe that there is no picture of Colin Firth all wet in this post. An egregious oversight.

Also, “all seven” Veronica/Duncan shippers made me lol.

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j December 20, 2011 at 11:36 am

I refuse to believe that Officer Leo could be the odious Mr. Collins. Officer Leo is too good compared to Mr. Collins. He was just doomed to lose out to Logan because Logan and V forevah. I will gladly take Officer Leo off V’s hands though.

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Savannah December 20, 2011 at 1:04 pm

hi elizabeth r.

1. i’m a HUGE fan — one would say your biggest fan but there is no way to prove that. although if you’d have a way i’d like to compete. like for instance a pie eating contest.
2. this is fantastic!
3. I love logan.

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Sarah December 20, 2011 at 1:22 pm

Well, this is obvs just proof to me that we need a Highly Scientific Analysis of Veronica Mars! Please please please please!

I mean. We all know who wins. But still.

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Tash December 20, 2011 at 11:48 pm

AGREED! Excellent post, and yes the one thing this site is missing- a highly scientific analysis of the boys of Veronic Mars! And let’s ignore the ending of season three completley. Please.

Which reminds me- Piz/Pez/whatever from Season 3 is totally Mr Collins. SO BORING.

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Kates December 22, 2011 at 12:16 pm

YES! This is genius.

Also, Piz? I pretend he never happened. la la la la I can’t hear you, Season 3 la la la.

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crystal December 20, 2011 at 1:43 pm

Aw, I love this! Two great tastes that go great together. But I take (mild) exception to describing Mr. Collins as a “nice guy.” He’s not egregiously evil, but he is pompous, status-obsessed, and completely insensitive to the feelings of everyone around him. Deputy Leo’s just a misguided puppyface. :P

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Maggie December 20, 2011 at 1:46 pm

This is amazing!

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Natalie @ Mindful Musings December 20, 2011 at 2:43 pm

AWESOME! I never would have thought to compare these two, but it works! Veronica Mars and Pride and Prejudice…two of my favorite things!

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Jenny December 20, 2011 at 5:12 pm

Fantastic job, lady! Just amazing!

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EvilEva December 20, 2011 at 5:34 pm

This is an amazing post! But i gotta ask… am i the only one on Team Piz?
i also really loved Wallace and Weevil. Oooh, and Mac! Damnit, i wish they’d make a movie version of Veronica Mars to make up for the semi-pitiful season 3.

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Meredith December 20, 2011 at 6:00 pm

My mind? Officially blown. This is all kinds of awesome.

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Maria December 20, 2011 at 6:33 pm

This is awesome! I love both these things but never even thought to connect them. I once drew a similar comparison between the characters of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Little Women–I know, I know, but seriously, it WORKS. Unfortch I’ve yet to find anyone as interested in the parallel as I am.

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Emily B. December 20, 2011 at 9:26 pm

A unicornicopia of awesome! Also, you’re writing? So. Good.

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Imelda December 21, 2011 at 3:34 am

More VMars analysis!!!!!!! Pleeeeeaaaaassseeee????

(also, hem hem, just want to voice my support for the K Knightley version of P&P)

Kay, I’m out!!

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erin December 21, 2011 at 6:59 am

Wait, wait . . . who is Bingley? Can Bingley be Piz? They have different love interests but neither has any damn agency over his own life and I sort of want to kick both of them in the throat.

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Alyssa December 21, 2011 at 8:04 am

Also, who is Wallace?? We can’t forget about him!

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Allison December 21, 2011 at 8:40 am

Brilliant!

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Susie December 21, 2011 at 10:32 am

Excellent article! You should get class credit, assuming you’re still in school. Now you’ve for me looking for parallels. Mac is Charolette Lucas. Both loyal, semi outsider friends, who got saddled with unfortunate love interests. Wallace is Georgiana Darcy, since the heroine initially makes friends with them because she pitied them, but they turn out to be awesome in their own right. Though it doesnt quite work since he isn’t related to Logan. The best I can come up with for Dick Casablancas is Col. FitzwillIam because of they’re role as hanger on the the romantic lead. This isn’t a perfect match since Dick is a horrible person and the colonel isn’t, but also because Dick is a hilarious, horrible person.

And I will also stick up for the Keira Knightly version. It is my favorite, although I haven’t seen an adaptation I haven’t enjoyed. It has the edge for me in that it makes the characters that are often portrayed as cartoonish in other versions (Mary, Mrs. Bennett, Collins) feel like real people, while staying true to the way Austen wrote them. I also really like that while Darcy is still shown to be arrogant, his real issue seems to be that he’s very socially awkward, and doesn’t know how to talk to people he hasn’t know for fifteen years.

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Elizabeth R. December 21, 2011 at 10:59 am

I am still in school, but unfortunately, my English teacher hasn’t seen Veronica Mars! In fact, I wrote this while avoiding the REAL essay I had to write on a much less interesting P&P topic.

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Rose December 21, 2011 at 11:04 am

Such a good essay! fantastic job! Thanks :)

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Alison December 21, 2011 at 7:57 pm

I love this!

My only quibble is that I think aside from Atticus Finch, Keith Mars is pretty much the best fictional dad in the history of fiction, and therefore beyond reproach. But thumbs up on all the rest. And Madison is *totally* Caroline Bingley.

Finally, I totally respect the use of the 2005 P&P cast photos. It makes me feel less alone in preferring it to the miniseries. *high fives you*

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Sarah December 21, 2011 at 11:02 pm

Hey, just wanted to let you know that “P&P” is mentioned in VM multiple times and is considered to be one of Veronica’s favorite books. They read the book/watch the movie in season 2 and Veroncia even claims she tazersed a guy because he “didn’t like ‘P&P’” in the college visit ep.
She & Logan even have a little exchange about “Emma” and watch “Sense & Sensibility” in season 3.

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YOUR MOM December 26, 2011 at 6:56 pm

Umm no, you are wrong. This details and similarities are superficial and very general. Soo…yea not alike at :)

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Danielle @ BookOrBigScreen January 13, 2012 at 3:51 pm

Love it! Great job.

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Juju at Tales of Whimsy.com January 14, 2012 at 8:19 am

OMG what a seriously BADA$$ post.
I love it.
I love your comparisons.
You nailed it on the dads.
And I’m love the “douchebaggery” term.
AWESOME point on Weevil!

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