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we didn’t start the fire

by Meghan on December 14, 2009

BOOK REPORT for fire by kristin cashore

bff charm: yay, for my own safetly
swoonworthy scale: 2
talky talk: once upon a time
bonus factor: mysterious loner dude, duckie
relationship status: it’s not you, it’s me

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the deal:

fire takes place in the same fantasy world as cashore’s first book, graceling, although only one character from graceling appears in the book, which takes place years before graceling. in the dells, a land over the mountains and east of the seven kingdoms from graceling, there are creatures called monsters who are more beautiful and compelling versions of regular animals. monster dogs, monster birds, monster horses, even monster bugs. fire’s a monster human — she’s so beautiful she has to go around with her brilliant hair covered in order to avoid attention. just looking at her face makes men go crazy, and she can influence people’s minds with her own. all monsters can do that to some extent, and fire’s monster father was one of the strongest and cruelest. she struggles with her power, ashamed of it and afraid of being who her father is.

ANYWAY, fire ends up having to go south to the king’s city and try to help save the kingdom. king nash is in love with her, natch, and his cold, mysterious brother brigan seems to hate her. her lifelong-best-friend-with-benefits archer is also in love with her and insanely jealous of other men, although he can’t seem to stop jumping in bed with other women (they’re like joey potter and dawson leery, only with S-E-X). the king and prince have another brother and sister, twins garan and clara, who run the kingdom’s spy network and enlist fire for her firepower (ha). there’s a huge war, and all kinds of nasty murder plots and craziness with really bad bad guys and good guys who have to learn to use their powers for good, not evil.

bff charm: yay, for my own safety

bff

ok, y’all, i wouldn’t want to NOT be bffs with fire. she is wicked scary, but in a good way if she’s on your side. she cares a lot about her friends, and although she spends a crazy amount of time for a 17-yo thinking about having babies*, she’s ok. i would want to smack her a bit when she gets too mopey, and luckily several of the other characters in the book do just that.

*what is WITH ya books and babies lately, y’all? cos the last twilight book totally squicked me out (for many, many, many reasons, not the least of which was the fact that i was reading it at all) because of that nasty vampire baby shizz, AND because what teen REALLY wants to read about babies and pregnancy? dude, i AM pregnant and I DON’T WANT to read this stuff. this book has THREE prego ladies plus a girl pining for kids (but monsters always beget monsters, so fire knows she’ll never have babies) and it seriously was way distracting, not in a good way.

p.s. oh, and did i mention the HORSES? this book is all about horses. and babies. ok, not really (it’s totes about mind control and killing people), but there are a lot of horses in this book, and i’m not into them AT ALL so it was really noticeable.

in fact, if this book could have anti-bonus factors, they’d be babies, horses and periods (oh yeah, it got a little judy blume with the period talk, only margaret simon didn’t have to stay inside or risk being attacked by evil monster raptor birds who were driven crazy by the smell of her blood when she got her period).

swoonworthy scale: 2

ok, archer and fire have totally been getting it on for 2 years before the book even begins, and there’s not even a drop of sizzle. none. and when fire really falls in love, it should be all electric and tingly cos it’s with the emotionally unavailable guy who seems to hate her (hello? classic romantic setup here — mr. darcy or mr. rochester anyone?) but it’s SO not. it’s like negative swoon. i mean, i bet they even do it with fuzzy socks on like old married people.

talky talk: once upon a time

cashore’s style is similar in this book to her style in graceling — very old fashioned and almost detached. in graceling, though, i got caught up in the story and in katsa’s mind and feelings quickly, and the fairy-tale talk worked. it’s too detached here, and it reminded me a lot of those shannon hale goose girl books — it’s so detached and oldey-worldey that it makes what could be an exciting story a bit boring. and this is exciting in an old-school fairy tale way — think brothers grimm and hc anderson, not disney. think evil scary things under the bed, and little girls freezing to death and wicked witches gobbling up children and blood and guts and people bashing other people’s faces in. no joke. but somehow there’s no intensity.

bonus factor: mysterious loner dude

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brigan is all aloof and cold and “let’s throw her out to let the monster raptors eat her” with fire, and as we all know, there’s no better way to get a girl’s attention than to totally ignore and hate her. plus he has all these secrets — some even he doesn’t know about — and a soft, gooey center.

bonus factor: duckie

duckie

archer is a classic duckie, except he’s totally hot and gets all the chicks he wants (except fire). he’s actually a total ass, and not really someone you root for fire to end up with, although you do understand the assiness and kind of feel for him.

casting call:

lauren ambrose as fire

lauren ambrose as fire

um, so fire’s supposed to be so beautiful you can lose your mind looking at her. and i don’t know any actresses like that at all, but this chick has red hair and is pretty and can do the intense-emotional thing, so here you go.

tim riggins as archer

tim riggins as archer

hot? check. cocky? check. gets in bed with all the girls? how about an all-access pass for mr. riggins, say what?

paul wesley as brigan

paul wesley as brigan

he certainly has the trying-to-atone-live-for-good-not-evil thing down. plus he’s a bit broody.

relationship status: it’s not you, it’s me

y’all, i know people LOVED this book. they said it’s better than graceling. i REALLY wanted to love it. i just couldn’t get into it. yes, i read it in 2 days, and i did want to know what happened at the end, and i did like fire and really liked the supporting characters (hello, clara? call me anytime!) but i just didn’t get into it like graceling. maybe that’s a good thing, since graceling took all my hopes and dreams and just dropped them in the trash can along with my books in the hall in front of the caf without even a buh-bye, but i don’t know. i had hopes for this book, and they didn’t even get off the ground. glad i read it? sure. but any more than that? nope.

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Jenny December 14, 2009 at 9:36 am

Great review! This book sounds like it has a lot of great elements, too bad it fell short for you. Now, seriously, dude, are we sharing a brain? Last week you cast alexis b for your review, and so did I. This week, Lauren Ambrose??!!!! She’s way more random than A.B. too. So cray.

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Meghan December 14, 2009 at 3:08 pm

i saw your lauren ambrose pic right after i uploaded mine! sorry, i suck at pop culture stuff, so i don’t know many redheaded actresses or i would’ve chosen someone else.

oh, poshdeluxe, tim riggins was just for you. and you might love the book — most people do. i think it really might have been just me. who knows? and paul wesley is on vampire diaries.

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Poshdeluxe December 14, 2009 at 9:42 am

see, this is what i love about FYA. even when a book is less than awesome, the review is always THE BEST THING EVER.

cos, this line? “i mean, i bet they even do it with fuzzy socks on like old married people.” SNICKERTASTIC.

in all seriousness, though, i’m bummed! i actually just got this book from the library and i was super excited to read it. poops! well, i’m still gonna read it, since the story itself sounds pretty cool, and anything that allows me to picture tim riggins is worth my time FO SHO.

p.s. who is this paul wesley guy? damn!

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Jenny December 14, 2009 at 4:38 pm

No way, Meghan! I love it! It’s awesome to think we’re just all picking up on each other’s brain waves!

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Erin December 15, 2009 at 9:08 pm

TIM RIGGINS!!!!!!!! I want this book to be made into a movie. Now. A movie with Tim Riggins. With no shirt.

Dude, what IS up with babies in YA?? Newsflash, YA authors: babies are lame. MAKIN’ BABIES isn’t lame, but actually being preggers and all that? Sort of lame. (your mileage may vary, meghan)

Also now I have Dwight singing We Didn’t Start The Fire stuck in my head. Ryan started the fire!

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Poshdeluxe December 30, 2009 at 4:40 pm

ok, so i finished this book a few days ago, and i’m pleased to report that i actually really enjoyed it! i loved the whole monster thing, and the storyline was fun and captivating and super duper adventurous!

i do agree, meghan, that there was WAAAAAAY too much baby dreaming in this book. i would still give fire my bff charm, but then i would probably smack her in the face and tell her to GET OVER IT ALREADY. hello, you’re like, the most beautiful creature in the world! and you’ve got pretty much everything! so simmer down with the preggers obsession!

also, i actually liked archer a LOT. and sure, maybe it has a TINY bit to do with the tim riggins casting. just a little.

i’d definitely up the swoonworthy scale, but it wasn’t through the roof like it was in “graceling.” le SIGH.

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Meghan December 30, 2009 at 4:48 pm

yay! i’m really glad you enjoyed the book. like i said, i really WANTED to luuuuurvvv the book, and i think that put me in a position to be easily disappointed. i did love the monster storyline and the WHOA adventures (hello? assassinations?). i just hoped for more (plus, maybe i was a big, stressed-out crankypants when i read it due to our move. i mean, that could be a teeeensy-weensy part of it).

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Kelly January 1, 2010 at 12:42 am

Oh dang. I just picked this up from the library. I’ll try to go into it with a blank slate to avoid the Meghan experience!

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Kristina June 1, 2010 at 12:12 pm

So I read this in one night (just like Graceling) so it couldn’t have been toooooo bad. Actually, I really enjoyed it. I almost liked Brigand MORE than Po, if that’s possible. Po really disappointed me in the end of Graceling with his mopey-pants attitude. This book reminded me forcefully of what makes Robin McKinley wonderful and I’m so glad to see another author adopting her style of tell a fairy-tale that isn’t so princess-perfect.

I think the complaints about babies in this book are a little harsh. You have to think back to medieval times, right, ’cause even if this book is in a different world, it IS based in that time-period. And women were mainly around as baby-makers. It was a waaay more important and was more important earlier in a girl’s life. But I think that the main reason that Fire is baby dreaming through the book is because she CAN’T have babies… ever (well, unless she wants to birth a monster). Even if I was like 16 and a doctor said I could never have children of my own – even though I’d be SO not ready to be knocked up at 16 – I’d still feel some serious sadness. Serious. Sadness. And I’d probably think about it. A lot.

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Meghan June 1, 2010 at 12:27 pm

kristina — good point about the babies thing. it’s just that i also know at 16 i wouldn’t have been interested AT ALL in reading about a girl who couldn’t have babies and then thought about it all the time, ya know? plus with the whole breaking dawn (eww GROSS) thing, it just seemed a bit much. BUT. good point.

and haha about po’s mopey-pants attitude — i had the same reaction he did at the end of graceling! i was more bummed than katsa, i think, as she lalala’d off to teach fighting and survival without so much as a backwards glance (i know she was more sad than that, but still … after the HOTNESS of the cave, i hoped for more!). i DID really like fire, believe it or not, but i went in with too high expectations, i think. plus, the whole aforementioned big stressed-out crankypants moving to another state thing while reading the book didn’t help.

i’ve GOTTA read some robin mckinley. besides sunshine, anyway.

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HG_Hottie17 April 2, 2011 at 5:51 pm

I totally agree with you on the whole pregers thing, It was Gay! I liked Graceling more but I’m siked for Bitterblue anyway. One book I liked was Halo by Alexandra Adornetto, maybe you’ll like that one, you should try it =~} The next book’s coming out soon, siked for that too!

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