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		<title>By: Minerva Therese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minerva Therese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Disreputable History of Frankie Landau-Banks is one of my FAVORITE books &lt;3 . Glad to see there are other YA people who&#039;ve seen it, actually...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Disreputable History of Frankie Landau-Banks is one of my FAVORITE books &lt;3 . Glad to see there are other YA people who&#039;ve seen it, actually&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Poshdeluxe</title>
		<link>http://www.foreveryoungadult.com/2009/08/31/we-revel-in-our-idiosyncrasies-as-adult-readers-so-kids-should-have-the-same-freedom-%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Poshdeluxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the recs, literaturecrazy! i haven&#039;t read most of those books, actually, although i can assure you that king dork, frankie banks and john green will ALL be appearing soon on FYA cos LOVE. 

the rest i will be adding to my library queue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the recs, literaturecrazy! i haven&#8217;t read most of those books, actually, although i can assure you that king dork, frankie banks and john green will ALL be appearing soon on FYA cos LOVE. </p>
<p>the rest i will be adding to my library queue!</p>
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		<title>By: Literaturecrazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Literaturecrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My list of books would include two non-fiction books:
- &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39933.How_to_Read_Literature_Like_a_Professor_A_Lively_and_Entertaining_Guide_to_Reading_Between_the_Lines&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Read Literature Like a Professor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; because then you can know &quot;how&quot; to read the classics.
- &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6113032.Beowulf_on_the_Beach_What_to_Love_and_What_to_Skip_in_Literature_s_50_Greatest_Hits&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Beowulf on the Beach&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; because then you will &quot;want&quot; to read the classics.

Then I&#039;d pick some YA books that re-imagine themes from classic literature in pretty cool ways:
- &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://literaturecrazy.blogspot.com/2009/08/book-reviews-gone-and-hunger.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GONE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; by Michael Grant (which one reviewer said is like &quot;If Stephen King had written &lt;i&gt;Lord of the Flies&lt;/i&gt;).
- &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://literaturecrazy.blogspot.com/2009/08/book-review-king-dork.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;King Dork&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; for sure.  (Actually this book made me love that I don&#039;t have to feel guilty about not going back to re-read &lt;i&gt;Catcher&lt;/i&gt; as an adult when I&#039;ll &quot;understand&quot; it... and it made me laugh a ton.)
- &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6488327-troy-high&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Troy High&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; by Shana Harris (because who understands Homer for real? and I want to give something &quot;girly&quot; on the list).
- &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://literaturecrazy.blogspot.com/2009/06/book-review-something-rotten.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Something Rotten&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://literaturecrazy.blogspot.com/2009/06/book-review-something-wicked.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Something Wicked&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; by Alan Gratz (although by putting that as an &quot;or&quot; then I really earn an extra book on the list).

I&#039;d also maybe throw in &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://literaturecrazy.blogspot.com/2009/07/book-review-carter-finally-gets-it.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carter Finally Gets It&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; by Brent Crawford for the sheer fact that I have never read anything half as funny as this (although David Yoo&#039;s books come really close).  This book alone could restore any reluctant reader&#039;s hope that there are good books that are entertaining (and have a little ability to &quot;teach&quot; at the same time).  Hilarious!

(Sadly, this doesn&#039;t include &lt;i&gt;Disreputable History...&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Looking for Alaska&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;Abundance of Katherines&lt;/i&gt;, anything by the great Chris Crutcher.  Too many great YA books, not enough time.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My list of books would include two non-fiction books:<br />
- <i><a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39933.How_to_Read_Literature_Like_a_Professor_A_Lively_and_Entertaining_Guide_to_Reading_Between_the_Lines" rel="nofollow">How to Read Literature Like a Professor</a></i> because then you can know &#8220;how&#8221; to read the classics.<br />
- <i><a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6113032.Beowulf_on_the_Beach_What_to_Love_and_What_to_Skip_in_Literature_s_50_Greatest_Hits" rel="nofollow">Beowulf on the Beach</a></i> because then you will &#8220;want&#8221; to read the classics.</p>
<p>Then I&#8217;d pick some YA books that re-imagine themes from classic literature in pretty cool ways:<br />
- <i><a href="http://literaturecrazy.blogspot.com/2009/08/book-reviews-gone-and-hunger.html" rel="nofollow">GONE</a></i> by Michael Grant (which one reviewer said is like &#8220;If Stephen King had written <i>Lord of the Flies</i>).<br />
- <i><a href="http://literaturecrazy.blogspot.com/2009/08/book-review-king-dork.html" rel="nofollow">King Dork</a></i> for sure.  (Actually this book made me love that I don&#8217;t have to feel guilty about not going back to re-read <i>Catcher</i> as an adult when I&#8217;ll &#8220;understand&#8221; it&#8230; and it made me laugh a ton.)<br />
- <i><a href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6488327-troy-high" rel="nofollow">Troy High</a></i> by Shana Harris (because who understands Homer for real? and I want to give something &#8220;girly&#8221; on the list).<br />
- <i><a href="http://literaturecrazy.blogspot.com/2009/06/book-review-something-rotten.html" rel="nofollow">Something Rotten</a></i> or <i><a href="http://literaturecrazy.blogspot.com/2009/06/book-review-something-wicked.html" rel="nofollow">Something Wicked</a></i> by Alan Gratz (although by putting that as an &#8220;or&#8221; then I really earn an extra book on the list).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also maybe throw in <i><a href="http://literaturecrazy.blogspot.com/2009/07/book-review-carter-finally-gets-it.html" rel="nofollow">Carter Finally Gets It</a></i> by Brent Crawford for the sheer fact that I have never read anything half as funny as this (although David Yoo&#8217;s books come really close).  This book alone could restore any reluctant reader&#8217;s hope that there are good books that are entertaining (and have a little ability to &#8220;teach&#8221; at the same time).  Hilarious!</p>
<p>(Sadly, this doesn&#8217;t include <i>Disreputable History&#8230;</i>, <i>Looking for Alaska</i> or <i>Abundance of Katherines</i>, anything by the great Chris Crutcher.  Too many great YA books, not enough time.)</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 02:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Book Whisperer blog touched on this very subject!  Check out the link-
http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/book_whisperer/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Book Whisperer blog touched on this very subject!  Check out the link-<br />
<a href="http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/book_whisperer/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/book_whisperer/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Poshdeluxe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poshdeluxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and *i* am super excited about getting insight from an awesome librarian/teacher like YOU, katie! thanks so much for taking the time to share yr thoughts, cos comments from folks in the trenches (i.e. schools) like you are gonna give this blog a breadth and depth beyond my constant swoons, gahs and, you know, general blabbing.

and, to everything you said, i reply: double true. and also, amen! which is like, a super endorsement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and *i* am super excited about getting insight from an awesome librarian/teacher like YOU, katie! thanks so much for taking the time to share yr thoughts, cos comments from folks in the trenches (i.e. schools) like you are gonna give this blog a breadth and depth beyond my constant swoons, gahs and, you know, general blabbing.</p>
<p>and, to everything you said, i reply: double true. and also, amen! which is like, a super endorsement.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few more thoughts now that I have had time to read the article all the way and look at the pictures:

First of all, I had to laugh that the assistant education secretary wondered what would happen to Moby Dick, and even admitted that no one would voluntarily pick it up.  Why then, oh sage one, should we then force children to read it?  I never had to read Moby Dick (although there was an unfortunate encounter with one of his short stories called Billy Budd: Sailor) and I feel that my education was still a solid one.

Secondly, I guess that I don&#039;t agree that everyone should suffer through torture via an outdated literary canon.  That said, certainly it takes a highly-qualified and well-read teacher to run a reading workshop classroom.  Kids are like sponges-if they see their teacher reading, are read to by their teacher, have books recommended to them by their teachers, then they will read and read a lot.  I see it all the time in the library.  I can tell exactly who a student&#039;s teacher is based on the books he/she asks for and how excited he/she is about coming to get more books.

I am also totally jealous that the teacher in the article got to meet and work with Nancie Atwell.  Her book, In the Middle, completely changed how I taught writing.  It is amazing how well kids can and will write when you give them choice.  

I believe the same goes for reading.  A lot of the issue behind giving students choice really doesn&#039;t lie with classics-should we or shouldn&#039;t we-or even test scores.   It lies with giving students control.  By giving a student control,  the teacher becomes a facilitator as opposed to a disseminater of knowledge.   And I&#039;ll be honest-the thought of giving control over to a bunch of 7th graders made me break out in a cold sweat more than a few times.

But when the teacher becomes a mentor-modeling, nudging, encouraging-and takes the time up front to establish the procedures necessary for success-I think the workshop approach is best.

I am super excited about this blog and all the discussion it will generate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more thoughts now that I have had time to read the article all the way and look at the pictures:</p>
<p>First of all, I had to laugh that the assistant education secretary wondered what would happen to Moby Dick, and even admitted that no one would voluntarily pick it up.  Why then, oh sage one, should we then force children to read it?  I never had to read Moby Dick (although there was an unfortunate encounter with one of his short stories called Billy Budd: Sailor) and I feel that my education was still a solid one.</p>
<p>Secondly, I guess that I don&#8217;t agree that everyone should suffer through torture via an outdated literary canon.  That said, certainly it takes a highly-qualified and well-read teacher to run a reading workshop classroom.  Kids are like sponges-if they see their teacher reading, are read to by their teacher, have books recommended to them by their teachers, then they will read and read a lot.  I see it all the time in the library.  I can tell exactly who a student&#8217;s teacher is based on the books he/she asks for and how excited he/she is about coming to get more books.</p>
<p>I am also totally jealous that the teacher in the article got to meet and work with Nancie Atwell.  Her book, In the Middle, completely changed how I taught writing.  It is amazing how well kids can and will write when you give them choice.  </p>
<p>I believe the same goes for reading.  A lot of the issue behind giving students choice really doesn&#8217;t lie with classics-should we or shouldn&#8217;t we-or even test scores.   It lies with giving students control.  By giving a student control,  the teacher becomes a facilitator as opposed to a disseminater of knowledge.   And I&#8217;ll be honest-the thought of giving control over to a bunch of 7th graders made me break out in a cold sweat more than a few times.</p>
<p>But when the teacher becomes a mentor-modeling, nudging, encouraging-and takes the time up front to establish the procedures necessary for success-I think the workshop approach is best.</p>
<p>I am super excited about this blog and all the discussion it will generate.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ITA that hunger games and frankie landau-banks SHOULD be required reading in school.  School needs more books about kickass young girls.

I like this idea as long as it is supported with a core of required cirriculum, much like in Meredith&#039;s school.  I am an avowed bibliophile, but there are some required books which threatened to change that (I&#039;m looking at you, Moby Dick).  But the fact that everyone has had to suffer through some form of literary torture unites us, and it gives us a common language.  I may hate Moby Dick, but at least I and everyone else I meet knows what a &quot;white whale&quot; is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ITA that hunger games and frankie landau-banks SHOULD be required reading in school.  School needs more books about kickass young girls.</p>
<p>I like this idea as long as it is supported with a core of required cirriculum, much like in Meredith&#8217;s school.  I am an avowed bibliophile, but there are some required books which threatened to change that (I&#8217;m looking at you, Moby Dick).  But the fact that everyone has had to suffer through some form of literary torture unites us, and it gives us a common language.  I may hate Moby Dick, but at least I and everyone else I meet knows what a &#8220;white whale&#8221; is.</p>
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		<title>By: Poshdeluxe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poshdeluxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>katie, YOU WIN. i really wanna send you a &quot;best librarian&quot; ribbon in the mail, but i don&#039;t have one at my disposal at the moment.

meredith, bell jar?! oh man... i love you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>katie, YOU WIN. i really wanna send you a &#8220;best librarian&#8221; ribbon in the mail, but i don&#8217;t have one at my disposal at the moment.</p>
<p>meredith, bell jar?! oh man&#8230; i love you.</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We sort of had a program like that in high school. Well, we had a list of &quot;optional reading&quot; that would have more fun stuff like Pat Conroy or possibly King Dork (KING DORK!!! Every kid, adult, human is REQUIRED to read this book, IMO), but you had to choose at least one book off the optional list and right about it every semester. But also my favorite teacher ever, Mr. Mitchell, once went around and asked everyone what book they last read and whether it should be required reading, and we all voted on the top 3 and he added them to our curriculum. Mine got in! (The Bell Jar, you&#039;re welcome, high school boys who hate me now!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We sort of had a program like that in high school. Well, we had a list of &#8220;optional reading&#8221; that would have more fun stuff like Pat Conroy or possibly King Dork (KING DORK!!! Every kid, adult, human is REQUIRED to read this book, IMO), but you had to choose at least one book off the optional list and right about it every semester. But also my favorite teacher ever, Mr. Mitchell, once went around and asked everyone what book they last read and whether it should be required reading, and we all voted on the top 3 and he added them to our curriculum. Mine got in! (The Bell Jar, you&#8217;re welcome, high school boys who hate me now!)</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is late (for me) and I have been in a computer lab with elementary aged children all day, so a more thorough comment will come later.  However, I did want to chime in quickly to say that as a librarian, I endorse this post.

I am fortunate to work at a school where reading workshop allows for independent reading and independent choice.  However, some teachers still manage to take things like reading levels out of context and make them the end all be all.  Choice in reading is what the real world is all about.   If you go to Barnes and Noble, the cashier does not force you to prove that you can read the first page of the book before she lets you purchase it.  If you go to the public library, the librarians do not follow you around telling you that a book is not on your reading level.  So why then do some teachers create such unrealistic reading scenarios in the classroom?

And the truth is, children&#039;s and YA lit is much more prolific and brimming with well written text that rivals, and often times, outshines the &quot;classics&quot; that so many people are die hard about (and don&#039;t even get me started about how we usually give these &quot;classics&quot; to kids way before they have the life experience to understand or enjoy them).

The beauty of my job is that I can let kids check out what they want, when they want and how they want.

(and now I&#039;m re-reading and seeing that this is a very disjointed post, but I think you&#039;ll get my drift)

Katie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is late (for me) and I have been in a computer lab with elementary aged children all day, so a more thorough comment will come later.  However, I did want to chime in quickly to say that as a librarian, I endorse this post.</p>
<p>I am fortunate to work at a school where reading workshop allows for independent reading and independent choice.  However, some teachers still manage to take things like reading levels out of context and make them the end all be all.  Choice in reading is what the real world is all about.   If you go to Barnes and Noble, the cashier does not force you to prove that you can read the first page of the book before she lets you purchase it.  If you go to the public library, the librarians do not follow you around telling you that a book is not on your reading level.  So why then do some teachers create such unrealistic reading scenarios in the classroom?</p>
<p>And the truth is, children&#8217;s and YA lit is much more prolific and brimming with well written text that rivals, and often times, outshines the &#8220;classics&#8221; that so many people are die hard about (and don&#8217;t even get me started about how we usually give these &#8220;classics&#8221; to kids way before they have the life experience to understand or enjoy them).</p>
<p>The beauty of my job is that I can let kids check out what they want, when they want and how they want.</p>
<p>(and now I&#8217;m re-reading and seeing that this is a very disjointed post, but I think you&#8217;ll get my drift)</p>
<p>Katie</p>
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